Q: I have had high blood pressure for 40 years,nothing seems to help. I take Diovan 320mg 1@day,Labetalol 200mg 2@day, amlodipine 5mg 1@day, Tekturna 300mg1@day, Inspra 50mg 1@day and Lasix 20mg 1@day. I use Resperate every day. Every morning my pressure averages 200/85, this morning 225/95. without exercise it goes to 160/70. I exercise 6 hours a week. I’m 76,5-8″,150lbs. I’m seeing a Nephrologist. Any suggestions?
A: You are already seeing a kidney doctor, are taking medicine, exercising, have a normal weight, and use the Resperate but still aren’t in control. There are some studies to suggest that acupuncture might help. A good friend of mine is both an orthopedic surgeon and a practicing acupuncturist. He says he has a very good success rate at getting difficult to control hypertension into control. Many insurance plans cover acupuncture visits.
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SOUND LIKE YOU’RE TAKING WAY TOO MUCH MEDICINE.I TAKE NORVASC 10 MG A DAY AND MINE IS CONSIDERED HARD TO CONTROL BUT IT’S BEEN IN THE143/80 OR LESS RANGE FOR A LONG TIME.I READ THAT SOME MEDICINES REACT NEGATIVELY TO EACH OTHER.MAYBE YOU SHOULD NOT EXERCISE AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH LESS MEDICINE.
I had your problem and ended up hospitalized;I got home, quot EVERYTHING and 1 year later, all is great.
Learn EFT, Acupunture w/out the needles. You will loose weight, keep exercising, learn deep breathing, and EFT, an You will control Your Blood pressure with out even medications, You’re in too much MEDS! Good Luck! God Bless!
I would like to LEARN about EFT, and acupunture w/out needles to help me by the LORD’S HELP, contol high blood pressure. Please, email, if you would, with either the name, or the steps to take. THANK YOU!
Has anyone looked into the “High Blood Pressure Solution” book by Richard Moore? It has a 4.5 star review on Amazon. Might be worth a try.
You might want to check with the doctor to make sure you don’t have hyperaldosteronism. It just requires a lab test. For 20 years, nothing helped my high blood pressure until I found out I had this condition. I now take a potassium-sparing diuretic, and for the first time in many years, my blood pressure readings are normal.
L-Argine is a natural poduct as it is one of the 22 amino acids which comprise food. It is converted by the body into Nitric Oxcide and it relaxes the arteries. It has the same effect as Candesartan(Amias)I had very high BP five years ago I go to the gym 5/6 times a week and practice Mindfulness Mediation for 30 mins each day & my BP is now well under control.
I know the feeling all too well. Before taking meds I hit all time high reading of 228/115 and this is while exercising everyday for at least 30 minutes. I thought exercise was supposed to help reduce BP? When I went on meds 3 months ago at age 47 I never went that high again but still got spikes to 180/87 and 160/78. The doc wasn’t satisfied and put me on a different class of drug therapy–same results again. Most of the time BP stayed around 120/65 but I still got the spikes. That was a month ago. Since then I added Fish oil and CoQ10 and a strict diet and things have stabilized. I still exercise everyday and now my BP holds steady at between 110-120/55-65
I know the feeling so well of spiking BP.I have white coat syndrome (Doctor visits!!!)I often find spikes of 170/90 in the morning.I am on Sotolol, Zestril and a mild Diuretic.I do find excercise helps,40/45 mins a day on an exercise bike.My BP has been in the higher since I was 38 ,Im now 67 with three coronary artery stents and bad ectopics. I was told fish oil daily is good for the ectopics and I eat fish at least 5 days a week so I dont take fish oil supplement. I have upped my CQ10 to 200mg daily.Stress is one causitive factors in labile BP
Do spikes in BP indicate Labile hypertension? I’ve heard it’s difficult to treat with conventional meds. I always get high readings in the doctors office after being normal before leaving home. This may also explain why meds sometimes over medicated me and my BP sunk to 88/52 on several occasions. Too low is also dangerous.
GET ON LARGININE PLUS. $107.00 FOR 3 CANS. I WAS 210 OVER 110. NOW 120 OVER 68. TAKES 4 MONTHS. DO NOT GET OFF AN WATCH ALL THE VIDEOS. THIS IS THE BEST AN CHEAPEST PRODUCT. ALSO STAY ON RESPERATE. ALSO FOR ADDTIONAL HELP TILL IT GOES DOWN GO TO WORLD HEALTH MALL AN TAKE THERE NATURAL HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE FORMULA. DOWN TO NORMAL IN 2 HOURS. THIS WORKS
Larginine can you tell me where you order it from? any website, or is it doctor prescribed? Thanks in advance
I just googled this substance to learn more. It would be smart to discuss with your doctor. Here is what I found on the Mayo Clinic website:
Arginine also triggers the body to make protein and has been studied for healing wounds, bodybuilding, enhancing sperm production, and preventing tissue wasting in people with critical illnesses. However, caution is warranted. Arginine use was associated with death in certain groups of heart patients. Caution is also needed when using arginine to treat pre-eclampsia (high blood pressure in pregnancy).
Arginine hydrochloride has high chloride content and has been used to treat metabolic alkalosis. This use should be under the supervision of a qualified healthcare professional.
I tryed that l arginne did not work for me tryed it for 3 months my blood pressure averages 240 250
dont smoke drink not overweight tryed med they dont work either.garlic that dont work eating vegtables that dont work.seems like i am an exception to the rule
Are you aware that there is more than one type of Arginine, L arginine so please research this,Natural form is best not manufactured.Obviously getting someone who is familar with this is best
Mukta Vati is an Eastern Indian combination of herbs that really work and had NO side effects. It is also a kidney tonic.
Google Ivy’s Mukta Vati from Herbs2you. The lady who runs it is named Mei. She is a wonderful support help and Mukta Vati may be just the thing your body needs.
Mike
Mukta Vati is an alternative for treating high blood pressure. It acts as an extreme blood thinner, causing very intense dreams while sleeping at night, and it leaves you sleepy throughout the day. It does lower blood pressure. I am a retired technician and worked in a lab where we could test products that we used. Several of us started using Muta Vati. We reported results to each other daily. We all had the same findings. Three of us took part in this informal survey. One of us continued using it the other two stopped.
Sounds like you need a couple of second opinions…………you didn’t say if you have “kidney disease” or not. Also… are you saying your BP is 160/70 ~ “without exercise”????……..What you wrote is confusing…….. ;-(
But ANYBODY who is 76yrs old, at a proper weight for their height & is till exercising………sounds like they are doing alright.
I would also recommend a Nutritionist(in addition to your ‘Nephrologist’) to see & switch to organic foods
I meant to say that my pressure went to 160/70 after exercise. I have seen at least 8-10 Drs. A couple actually gave up and said they couldn’t help me. Very frustrating!
I hae used Mukta Vati for years and it works great. I use it in combination with 240 MG Verapamil for Atrial Fib and HBP and with Mukta Vati my pressure went from 160/90 to consistent readings of 114/65. I still get occaional spkes (White Coat Syndrom), but it has worked where nothing else did. It also lowered my pulse rate from 80+ to 60-64. Sleep better amam more relaxed. No side effects except some nasal congestion. I am down to 1/2 pill of Mukta Vati a day for maintenance.
I think is taking too much medicine, my mom has high tension since 38 years older, and she suffered a lot of spkes, now she is 85 and has alzheimer and parkinson but no high tension since 2008 i think is more on our minds stress and too much work and few exercise, resperator help me lot and meditation.
I would say that your cardiovascular system has adapted to all or some of the anti-hypertensive drugs you have been taking and this is why they no longer work. It’s only logical to assume that, for example, if you were taking Diovan for a long time and since this drug blocks the Angiotensin II receptors, your organism may have reacted to that by increasing the number of those receptors (the Renin-Angiotensin is an essential natural mechanism evolved to maintain homeostasis, eg, blood pressure at optimal levels according to the body requirements) and maybe the same can be said about Labetalol with respect to the beta-adrenergic receptors it blocks to reduce the normal response of your cardiovascular system to adrenergic hormones (epinephrin, norepinephrin, etc)in an attempt to lower your blood pressure, but to counteract this blockage, your vascular system increases the number of available beta adrenergic receptors. If this hypothesis is correct, this means that in the long term the adapted organism will require higher dosages of these drugs to obtain the same level of blood pressure lowering efficiency. Just a theory, but in the absence of a better explanation (assuming you are not too overweight, as this could also explain part of the problem ohave a high deficiency in potassium or magnesium or even Vitamin D).
Thank you for your answer. I’m taking your theory with me to discuss with my Dr. on my next visit. I’ve been suspecting something like this for awhile. My only theory was that I “got used to the drugs”. I’m now off Inspra,Amlodipine,Lasix,and Tekturna. The Dr. has added Amiloride HCL 5 MG 3 times a day and 5 Mg Monoxidil 1@day. This has lowered my BP but still not normal. My potassium, magnesium and vitamin D is checked on a regular basis. I’m 5-8″, 150 lbs, so I’m not overweight. I do appreciate your concern.
HI KC, THIS IS MY REPLY TO THE LATGININE. THERE NUMBER IS 1-800-583-8004 GREAT GREAT PRODUCT. I AM OFF ALL MY MEDS COMPLETELY. MY PRESSURE WAS 210X110. I WISH I COULD TALK WITH YOU. ALSO GO TO THE L-ARGININE9 SITE AN WATCH THERE VIDEOS. THERE PRODUCT IS TOOOO EXPENSIVE. THIS PRODUCT WORKS BEST SINCE THERE WERE 4 OF US WHO WERE SICK AN NOW NOMAL ALONG WITH A STRICT DIET. DONOT LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE AFRAID OF NATURAL THINGS. TELL THEM TO RESEACH THERE MEDS THAT ARE KILLING THEM. I COULD GO ON AN ON. I FEEL WONDERFUL AN AM ON OTHER VITAMINS ALSO. BUT THE L-ARGININE WORKS.I ALSO WAS ON LEVODYN FOR A WHILE. IT HELPED BUT I FLUCTUATED. ALSO GET ON PRESSURE CONTROL FROM WORLD HEALTH MALL. 1-619-938-1671 HELPS WITHIN 2 HOURS. YOU WILL FEEL GREAT AN ALSO RESPERATE. I LOVE IT. ONCE DAY.
Hey Linda can you tell me if there are any side effects to taking the pressure control from world health mall? What I found on the internet was advanced pressure control is that the correct name? How often do you need to take it & how many & are they pills or caps? I couldn’t find this info on the site. I apprieciate your feed back on this. Thanks
Hi Mary, I have the number there for pressure control.. Its natural. No side effects Can take with your medication along with the l-arginine. I no longer need it but it helped me get off my meds. Love all this natural stuff an am grateful to be off meds. ITS CALLED PRESSURE CONTROL. TALK WITH JIM OR ROBERT. 1-619-938-1671. TOOK 1 OR TWO AT A TIME DEPENDING WHAT I NEEDED. NEVER TOOK TOO MUCH, BUT THATS ME, INCLUDING MY MEDS. YOU WILL DO WELL. AN BE GOOD ON YOUR DIE, NO SALT, SUGAR, COFFEE, TILL UNDER CONTROL, NO ALCHOL. NO MEAT. JUST CHICKEN AN FISH.
Please discuss with your doctor trying the Lasix twice daily instead of once. While the thiazide diuretics work well once daily, “loop” diuretics often need twice daily dosing to help with non responsive hypertension. Good luck!
I would encourage everyone to visit an alternative (naturopathic) doctor for their High BP treatment. They know what works. It’s too hard to play guesswork with this stuff. It’s trial and error at best.
Do you know of a naturopathic doctor that treats or know what work regarding high blood pressure?
Thank You!
I assume that ‘admin’ has given the patient the name and address of “the good friend of mine is both an orthopedic surgeon and a practicing acupuncturist.”
Sounds as if you are not getting the proper amount of sleep. Do you get eight hours of sleep? If not see a sleep disorder clinic.
Why do so many of the ‘alternative’ medicines in this thread sound like thinly-veiled spam advertisements?
Keep using Resperate and get Dr. Joel Fuhrman’s book Eat To Live or one of his other books. Get on his web site as soon as possibble drfuhrman.com He would say you are on too many medications that are adding to your problems. Get on a vegan diet of high vegetables and fruit before dropping any meds. Daily sodium intake almost zero–no prepared foods. There is enough sodium in vegetables.
I would also agree with Ella M. Highly recommend Eat to Live also. Also read “Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease” by Caldwell Esselstyn and “The High Blood Pressure Solution” by Thomas Moore. The name of the game is to treat Hypertension with as many natural options as possible. I’m living proof that it works. #1 is Diet followed by exercise. If that doesn’t work then add antioxidant supplements and RESPERATE. Last resort is drug therapy and preferably as low a dose as possible to stabilize BP at < or= 120/80 but once you experience the horrible side effects you'll want to get off these meds ASAP.
Get a sleep apnea test. Also, try some new medicines like Hydralazine or Clonidine with a diuretic. Lasix has a tendency to stop working. If it does, try Bumetinide with an every-two-days hit with metalozone. Some people are on the wrong medicines and their body fights them because they are working on the wrong pathways. Also, are there any traumatic events going on in your life? Severe grief or marital or work strife can raise blood pressure through the roof.
Sorry Fred, but, at 5’8″ and 150 lb., you are overweight – not obese but still carrying too much fat. More importantly, even if you are unwilling to accept this assessment, you should (in view of the tenacity of your hypertension) consider moving into the slender bracket. Take a look at some photos of Liu Xiang, the world champion 110 meter hurdler from China (6’2″, 160 lb.), or world champion Czech decathlete Robert Změlík (6’1″, 150 lb.). These guys are muscular, well formed, and pull in the birds. Consider also getting a “gold standard” body fat analysis at a facility that conducts displacement (i.e., dunking) tests, then see if you can get to 15% body fat or less.
I am nearly 80 and got fed up with years of medication, the only ones that worked were of the Ramopril family and they made me feel bad too. The Dr. said I might as well not have anything and live with it. “There is nothing you can do,” he said. Since then, several months since, I have lowered my systolic from 200 to a 24 hr average of 140 and my new Dr. says I have nothing to worry about. The main thing is to keep your weight down. It works for me anyway and I feel well.
I wonder what’s wrong with my sinuses. I rince each side 10 times with a neti pot, luke warm water, and iodized salt. Both sides are never 100% clear,. Sometimes both are clear and it feels amazing but 99% of the time I can only breathe out of 1 nostril. I had nasil surgery which was supposed to help but I know I don’t see anything inside. Its like swollen past the nasil bone on one side. I need to see an ear nose throat doctor. Right now I have some water in my left ear cancal.